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Scanner Results Are a Starting Point. Here's What Comes Next. - Federico Kirschbaum - ASW #386

  • What: Discussion on application security and AI in penetration testing
  • Impact: Highlights challenges in validating security findings
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Subscribe Share Full episode and show notes Application security , Generative AI , Automated penetration testing Scanner Results Are a Starting Point. Here’s What Comes Next. – Federico Kirschbaum – ASW #386 Most AppSec teams are working through more findings than their teams can validate. SAST surfaces thousands of potential issues. DAST generates alert volume that outpaces triage capacity. Somewhere in that output are the vulnerabilities that matter, the ones that are actually exploitable in production. This conversation explores why automated testing often stops short of the hardest part of the job: proving what is real. We dig into how business logic flaws and authorization vulnerabilities get missed by tools that scan without reasoning, what exploit validation looks like at runtime, and how security engineers are shifting toward findings that developers will actually act on. The segment is ... June 9, 2026 This episode is sponsored by Full Segment Notes Most AppSec teams are working through more findings than their teams can validate. SAST surfaces thousands of potential issues. DAST generates alert volume that outpaces triage capacity. Somewhere in that output are the vulnerabilities that matter, the ones that are actually exploitable in production. This conversation explores why automated testing often stops short of the hardest part of the job: proving what is real. We dig into how business logic flaws and authorization vulnerabilities get missed by tools that scan without reasoning, what exploit validation looks like at runtime, and how security engineers are shifting toward findings that developers will actually act on. The segment is sponsored by XBOW. Visit https://securityweekly.com/xbow to see how autonomous AI pentesting delivers expert-quality findings in hours with real exploit validation your team can actually act on. Guest Federico Kirschbaum Head of XBOW Security Lab at XBOW Federico Kirschbaum is Head of XBOW Security Lab and an established cybersecurity expert with over 20 years of experience in the industry. He is Co-Founder of Faraday Security and Co-Founder of Ekoparty, Latin America’s most influential hacking conference and a major gathering point for the region’s security community. Throughout his career, Federico has helped shape cybersecurity culture through research, tooling, community building, and leadership. His deep technical expertise and long-standing commitment to the field continue to advance offensive security, open collaboration, and the next generation of security research. Hosts Mike Shema https://dangerouserrors.com John Kinsella @jlk_ List of Articles Mike Shema Hackers Simply Asked Meta AI to Give Them Access to High-Profile Instagram Accounts. 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